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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 93 01:24:21 PDT
From: The Moderators <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #159


Info-Mac Digest             Wed, 11 Aug 93       Volume 11 : Issue 159

Today's Topics:

      "PowerBook 180 Harddrives"
      (c) speedyfinder goes commercial !!
      840av Simm slots
      address for MAC-L ?
      Advice Wanted: Global Village Modems
      APPLE IIE FILE TRANSFER
      AppleScript Help Needed
      AppleScript to CEIAC (Q)
      A Problem with Public Folder (2 msgs)
      Battery for PB100
      Centris 610, PPI modem (2Q)
      Centris 650 & QuickTime (S)
      Cross-platform, PD/SW molecular drawing program  [Q]
      DiiMO 50MHZ accelerator in a MACII
      disk compression
      Ditch the HMS system--go with millidays!
      Dropped connections
      fig editor/previewer for Mac?
      file synchronization software
      Financial software (Q)
      Finding new submissions
      GlobalFax Duo Problems (comment)
      Hard Disk Partition utility (A)
      Help! Quadra 800, OCR abd old Apple scanner
      Hiding the Names of Apps [R]
      hqx compressor wanted (small & cheap)
      IIsi connected with PC with AppleTalk, how?
      International Keyboards
      JFK stack still available?
      LaTeX on a Mac?
      LC520 .vs. Centris 660av?
      Long signatures
      LW8.0-incompatible progs list (Q)
      Mac - UNIX  Interfacing
      Mac App to "unzip" a file
      Mac dealers in Minneapolis/St. Paul or Chicago
      MacPPP 1.1.3 release
      Managing the Desktop Folder
      Modifying Finder 7.1 to show file sizes in K (A)
      Mouse Problem Update
      multiple keyboard layouts
      OCR shareware ?
      OMEGA SANE patch
      Pathways Into Darkness easter-egg?
      Pictures needed
      PowerPC
      Power PC questions (A)
      Privacy on the Net (C)
      Problem emptying trasch (C)
      Prograph
      Serbo-Croat Font
      Symantec C++
      Temporary Items Folder -- Don't Trash!!
      User Groups in Australia.......
      What ways are there to get Internet email access?
      WindowsNT (C)

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 01:37 EDT
From: [e-mail] (J. Leko)
Subject: "PowerBook 180 Harddrives"

Can anyone please tell me what physical size the harddrive in a PowerBook
180 is (ie. 2.5 in, or 3.5 in)?

Will this machine accomidate a 3.5 in internal harddrive?  Any help on
this would be greatly appreciate.

Thanx.

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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 00:21:43 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Rob Kouwenberg)
Subject: (c) speedyfinder goes commercial !!

Howdy !

Well the above (c) could be the copyright or the comment sign, make your
pick. The reason for this message is something I received. Just read the
following.

Greetings, Rob Kouwenberg

>Rob,
>        Victor forwarded me your message concerning our acquisition of
>SpeedyFinder7.  You will be happy to know that we will now be handling all
>support for the new product (which will be part of our forthcoming Desktop
>Tools package) and there will be a very nice upgrade path for all
>registered users of SF7.
>
>        Thanks for your support of shareware and I think you will be quite
>happy with the new improved SpeedyFinder and our Desktop Tools package. If
>you have specific questions about the package, etc. feel free to drop me a
>line.
>
>Leonard Rosenthol
>Aladdin Systems, Inc.
----
internet: [e-mail] snailnet:p/o Gr. Adolfstraat 86
bitnet  : ERSICRKO@HEITUE52                      5616 BX Eindhoven,Holland

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 19:21:18 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Fernando Urbina)
Subject: 840av Simm slots

[e-mail] writes:

>Can anyone tell me how many simm slots are on the 840av mother board, and
>how much memory in on the motherboard?

There are 4 SIMM slots, requiring 60ns 72-pin DRAM.  There is no memory
on the motherboard.
--
My Opinions, Not Apple's.

[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1993 21:12:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: address for MAC-L ?

Will someone tell me please what the e-mail address
and subscription command is for the MAC-L list?
Thanks much.  Ed Holzer

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Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1993 15:00:00 -0400
From: Mark Stephansky Whitman-Hanson 617-447-7020
<[e-mail]>
Subject: Advice Wanted: Global Village Modems

Hello All:

A friend has a Global Village Teleport/Bronze Modem to sell and before I buy I
would like some (any information) you could supply (He got his with his
Performa
purchase and doesn't know much about it.)  Can I send/recieve fax?? What is
the
baud speed etc...

Thanks in advance

Mark Stephansky
E-Mail: [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 17:48:00 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: APPLE IIE FILE TRANSFER

Could someone advise me on how to transfer data from an Apple IIe with a
5 1/4" disk drive to a Macintosh LCII (with 3 1/2" drive).

    The data consists of Appleworks wordprocessor and database files.

Question 1.

    Does anyone (near Staffs University) have an Apple IIE
    with 5 1/4" AND 3 1/2" drives
    and would be willing to help to transfer the files to 3 1/2" disks.

Question 2.

    Is there any other method of transferring the data.


    Pete Cox
    Chief Analyst/Programmer
    Staffordshire University
    Stoke on Trent
    England
    ([e-mail]83)

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 16:45 EST
From: Jim Allison <[e-mail]>
Subject: AppleScript Help Needed

I recently purchased the BMUG book "The TAO of AppleScript" which includes
a disk with AppleScript software. It installed and worked on my Mac IIci, but
when I tried to install it on a Centris 610, the Apple Event Manager comes up
with an X through it. I tried removing every other init except AppleScript and
it still came up with an X through it. I tried re-installing with no luck.
Is the version of AppleScript which ships with this book incompatable with
040 machines? Apple Event Manager and AppleScript are both ver 1.0.

Thanks,

Jim Allison

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 22:01:49 PDT
From: Kee Nethery <[e-mail]>
Subject: AppleScript to CEIAC (Q)

I wish to send AppleEvents from within AppleScript to CEIAC (QuicKeys
AppleEvent applet) so that the AppleScript can trigger QuicKeys Macros.
Unfortunately, CEIAC does not have an AppleScript directory that I can
select AppleEvent from. I can see the form of the CEIAC AppleEvents by
accessing CEIAC from within the AppleEvents Extension in QuicKeys. How do I
send AppleEvents from AppleScript to CEIAC (and thus to QuicKeys)? A sample
AppleScript that does this would be most welcome.

Kee Nethery
[e-mail]

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Date: 9 Aug 1993 12:23:37 -0600
From: Evans-CIC-IS <[e-mail]>
Subject: A Problem with Public Folder

To: "info-mac" <[e-mail]>

>>>>
A question for folks familiar with Claris' Public Folder.
I have been successfully running...System 6...but now I've run into a problem
adding an SE/30 running System 7.
The path to the folder as :desktop:Public Folder:
and Custom Name set to the name of the Mac,
and a folder on the desktop named "Public Folder".
>>>[e-mail] |

Ray:
  The problem is that your Public Folder sits on your Desktop.  Once you move
it back inside the Hard Drive Hierarchy everything will work fine again.  I
guess when Claris made this product (since it is so old), they did not forsee
the sys7 changes.

Take Care
TroyE

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 12:21:52 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Judith Haller)
Subject: A Problem with Public Folder

>The extension evidently works because (from the SE/30) I can see other
>Public Folders out on the net but no other machine can see the SE/30.
>Have I forgotten anything?  Any help would be appreciated.

I once had a machine disappear from the network's Public Folder list after
it had been working. It turned out that the System Folder had been renamed
to "System 7 Folder". When the folder was changed back to "System Folder"
and the Mac was rebooted, the Mac reappeared on the net.

Judith Haller
Institute for Geophysics
Univ of Texas-Austin

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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 20:46:56 EST
From: "Kirke B. Lawton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Battery for PB100

The latest TidBits (yay TidBits!) mentions a PowerBook replacement
battery called ThinPack from VST.  Can anyone tell me if they, or anyone
else (besides Apple, of course), make a PB100 battery?

Thanks,
Kirke
[e-mail]  or [e-mail]  or  [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 12:53:59 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Centris 610, PPI modem (2Q)

I am getting ready to purchase a new system and have two questions:
1) In the Centris 610 with built-in CD, is the CD the 150 model or
   the 300 model, and does this 610 have the built-in ethernet?
2) I want to get the PPI external 14.4 faxmodem.  I believe there
   is more than one version of this modem (one with LED's, one with
   LCD).  What are the model numbers and differences in features?

~Steve

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Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 21:12:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Russ Nelson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Centris 650 & QuickTime (S)

Thanks to all those who responded to my problem.  After several system
reinstalls and much messing around and calling the Apple help line (which
was very helpful but didn't come up with the solution) I figured out that
my problem was that I had a very large (1.5M) startupscreen.  When the
screen was in the Sys Folder, QuickTime wouldn't behave, and when I took
it out, it did. Strange. In addition to QuickTime not working, the "About
This Macintosh" memory graph thing would, instead of having a dark bar
inside the light rectangle for the System Software's memory, would have a
light bar extending to the left of the rectangle, drawing over the
numerical representation of the System Software's memory partition. The
problem is gone, but I have no idea why it existed in the first place.

Russ

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Date: Sun, 8 Aug 93 20:40:13 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Pete Jemian)
Subject: Cross-platform, PD/SW molecular drawing program  [Q]

We are desparately seeking a cross-platform program
that will draw molecules and crystal structures.

Requirements are:
1) easy text input of information
2) runs on Macintosh
3) runs on PC
4) Will allow on-screen rotation in 3D
5) Color support is appreciated
6) Supports printing (of course, for Mac programs)
7) public domain or shareware

Q: Is MacMolecule available for other hardware?
   I know it does 1,2, and 4-7.

Direct replies straight to me at address below.

Pete R. Jemian,  [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 16:38:55 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Alan Piszcz)
Subject: DiiMO 50MHZ accelerator in a MACII

DiiMO 50MHZ 68030 with 50MHZ FPU 64K CACHE
comparison

These numbers are relative to a MAC Classic.
The number in () are the relative speed up
compared to the STOCK Mac II.

The speedometer version used was 3.23 with
the OLD PR values.

        Stock MacII     DiiMO 50MHZ         DiiMO 50MHZ
Speedometer     16MHZ           with FPU &          with FPU &
Test            FPU and MMU     SANE patch*         No SANE PATCH

CPU             3.17            13.95 (4.4)         13.95 (4.4)
Graphics        3.89             9.77 (2.5)          9.65 (2.5)
Disk**          2.11             3.59 (1.7)          3.57 (1.7)
Math            5.29            28.79 (5.4)         10.87 (2.0)

Overall PR      3.39            12.11 (3.6)         10.87 (3.2)



* SANE patche is a control panel device which redirects
the math function calls normally performed by ROM routines
directly to the 68882 FPU.

** Disk used 240MB 3.5" 10mS Quantum

Best Place to buy one...

Memory PLUS 800-388-7587 (MA)

I have nothing to do with Memory Plus.



[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 17:14:55 bst
From: Mark Elliott <[e-mail]>
Subject: disk compression

no matter how much disk space i have, i always need more, so i reckon
i need one of the background compression programs
the ones i am aware of are AutoDoubler, Stuffit SpaceSaver and Times Two

i believe Times Two works differently to the others. is this right ?

i use Stuffit Lite for compression, and am really happy with it

the quiestion is :

can people mail me their thoughts on the above packages - how easy are
they to use/set-up ? will i notice much loss in speed ? what increase in
apparent disk space am i likely to see ? are there any other packages
that i should be aware of ( stacker for the mac ?) ?

ps. yes i know 'question' is spelt incorrectly ! i would change it but
unix text editors are a pain (my own opinion - don't mail me on that one !)

can you reply direct and i will summarise for the net

thanks

Mark Elliott

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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 93 00:41:46 EDT
From: Allan Hunter <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ditch the HMS system--go with millidays!

I must confess to a 10-year obsession!  Some time about 1983, it struck
me that the innovative French scientist folk who gave us the meter and
the liter and the gram sort of forgot to look at their watches.  And
they should have!  Anyone who has had to calculate the change in some-
thing over a period of several hours when the initial information was
given in seconds knows what I mean.

Now, according to the hours-minutes-seconds [HMS] system is expressed
as

8/11/93, 12:46:31 a.m. (Eastern Daylight Savings Time)

This is not good.  Time should be decimal.  Divide a day up into 1000
bits and you have increments that are roughly on the order of the
minute--about 86.4 seconds, to be sure.  That is the milliday.  Take
the idea two more decimal places so that you're talking about hundred-
thousandths of a day, and you've got 0.864 of a second.  Meet the
centimil.  Now, suppose you dispense with the convention of starting
over with renumbering days every month, and instead number them all
>From winter solstice.  Day of year.  Decimal point.  Millidays.  If
necessary, more decimal places gives centimils.  For that matter,
go on to microdays, attodays, femtodays, etc.

[Yes, I know they already to that with seconds.  But seconds are a
stupid increment to begin with.  The day is a good natural event.]

New nomenclature:

The same "now" is:  214.82290/1993  [based on day's beginning at 6 am]
(it's still Eastern Daylight because I'm lazy but I'd opt for a global
".000"and go from there to get rid of time zone specifications)

Imagine how much nicer your Excel spreadsheet will deal with it.
You gotta admit it's more elegant.
Now, as I said, it's an obsession.  Newest drool-thoughts are for,
most simply, a "Millidays" Hypercard stack; more complicatedly, a
SuperClock hack that will show Day.Millidays as one of the rotating
displays.  Who's gonna teach me how to scratch this particular itch?
How to I wean my Mac from HMS dependency?  Most centrally, in what
terms does the Mac understand its own ticks, and by what nomenclature
does it understand to "put" a set of digits that are based on those
same ticks?  [Does anyone with heavy programming talent find the notion
of millidays sufficiently inspiring to wanna take over?]

- Allan Hunter
 <ahunter@sbccvm>

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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 09:39:31 -0800
From: RL "Bob" Morgan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Dropped connections

> > I was wondering of if anyone is having a problem with dropped PPP
> > connections.

> I have both Telebit Netblazers and Livingston Portmasters under my control.

I'm one of the folks that uses MacPPP with the Livingston that Brian so ably
controls, and I'm happy to say I haven't had any of the connection drop
problems
that others have reported.  My modem is a clunky old Fastcomm v.32 for which I
don't even have a manual.  I haven't done anything special to set it up.  With
MacPPP 1.0 I experienced long timeouts (~ 10 seconds) relatively often while
typing, but even that has gone away recently.  I'm able to stay connected for
many hours at a time.

 - RL "Bob" Morgan
   Networking Systems
   Stanford

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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 10:31:41 +0100
From: Reinder Verlinde <[e-mail]>
Subject: fig editor/previewer for Mac?

The subject says it all:

does anybody know of a 'fig' (Unix figure editor) previewer/editor
for the Mac?

Please reply to me directly since this won't be of interest to many.

Reinder Verlinde

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 14:20:38 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: file synchronization software

My work has given me a PB180 to use. (Yes, I thought it
was mighty decent of them.) Now I'm faced with the need
to keep dual copies of files in synch between the
desktop machine and the laptop.

There are a number of commercial and PD utilities that
can do this. I'd appreciate recomendations from people.

I'll summarize.

Yours,

Scott McLagan
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 15:43:12 EST
From: G. Paul Savage <[e-mail]>
Subject: Financial software (Q)

My parents are about to by their first computer and are leaning towards a mac
(an LCII or LCIII). However, they are under some pressure to get an IBM clone
because my cousin has one and he has some software that he uses to manage his
portfolio of shares, and my parents are impressed with this. I've been looking
around for a good mac portfolio/financial manager and the list I've come up
with is as follows:

Managing your money
MacMoney
Wealthbuilder
Mind Your Own Business

Can anyone suggest which of these would be best (or any other alternatives)?
My
parents have shares in about 10 companies but are not heavy-duty share market
traders. They just want to watch how things are going and get a summary of
dividends, capital gains etc. at tax time. I am especially interested to hear
>From any other Australian users of this software -- ie. can you use it to
help
with filling out Australian tax returns? Cheque writing and electronic
payments
are not issues so Quicken is probably not what they want. Programs that are
U.S. specific are obviously not of any use.

Paul.
Melbourne, Australia        [e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 22:07:14 GMT
From: [e-mail] (I R A Aggie)
Subject: Finding new submissions

From: Jerry Wolf <[e-mail]>

Nubi Achebo was unable to find Canon 2 v1.0.3
(/snd/util/canon-2-103.hqx), which was posted in 11:156.  I sought Sound
Mover 1.9 (/snd/util/19.hqx), which was posted in the same issue.  Like
Nubi, I was unable to find it, even with Archie, and it's not mentioned
in 00util.abstracts.abs, either.  Did these binaries get sidetracked?
...................

When in doubt, always check the 'recent' directory for new files.
Bloody good idea, too. Thanks to whomever came up with the idea.

[We copied from umich and hacked together our own script.  The abstracts
don't get updated very often -- about once a month righ now, so it will take
a while before anything shows up there.  The recent directory, however,
is updated just before a digest is sent out as well as around
midnight.  -Gordon]

James
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 09:12:54 PDT
From: gla-aux![e-mail] (Glenn Austin)
Subject: GlobalFax Duo Problems (comment)

In article <[e-mail]>
([e-mail]), you write:
> The recently released GlobalFax Duo software for the Express Modem
> apparently has some bugs in it. In particular:
>
> - Manual Dialing does not work.  Apparently, the software times out before
> it will connect to anything.  According to Global Village's Tech Support,
> this a result of the Apple Comm Toolbox taking too long to initialize.  No
> workaround is available at this time.

Sorry GV Tech Support.. The Apple Comm Toolbox does NOT take "extra time" to
initialize.  I get the same perceived time from CTB applications as I do from
non-CTB applications to open a serial port.

> - Numerous users have reported problems with the software crashing after
> turning off the express modem.  In addition, the software APPEARS to
> initialize the modem into a receive-fax mode, even when it is not set up
> that way by the user.  According to GV, this is just a faulty indicator,
> and that the modem is actually set up correctly. They hope to have this
> fixed in the next release.

In combination with this note, I would say that the first problem is also
a software problem with their software, and/or a compatibility issue with
an init (virus protection, perhaps?)

// Glenn L. Austin
// Macintosh Wizard and Auto Racing Driver
// Usenet:  [e-mail] or ...skinner!gla-aux!glenn

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 09:19:31 PDT
From: gla-aux![e-mail] (Glenn Austin)
Subject: Hard Disk Partition utility (A)

In article <[e-mail]>
([e-mail]), you write:
> I would like a utility that would allow me to alter the size of partitions
> WITHOUT having to reformat the entire hard disk.  Does something like this
> exist?  I would gladly pay commercial fees for this, since it would save
> me a significant amount of time.  I have no tape streaming device
> attached, so my backup is contained on floppy diskettes.

Silverlining can do this and more.  So far, it is the ONLY partitioning
software that supports this, as well as handling optimizing and has one
of the fastest drivers around (yes, I've seen FWB's claims, but I dislike
having error correction on the drive turned off for the sake of speed --
I've had to recover several drives where HDT had put multiple copies of
their driver on the drive, sometimes within an existing partition!)

I've used most of the different partitioning software packages, and I keep
coming back to Silverlining.  It's not "pretty", but it works, and works
extremely well.  Besides, how many times do you bring up the user interface?
I certainly don't that often, but the driver has been bullet-proof in all
its uses, and I haven't been able to say that for the others...

// Glenn L. Austin
// Macintosh Wizard and Auto Racing Driver
// Usenet:  [e-mail] or ...skinner!gla-aux!glenn

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 13:05 EST
From: Jim Allison <[e-mail]>
Subject: Help! Quadra 800, OCR abd old Apple scanner

One of our faculty members relays heavily on OCR in his research.
He recently purchased a Quadra 800, hoping to speed up his work.
What he got was a world of problems. It seems that the OmniPage will not
work with the old Apple 4-bit scanner on a Quadra 800.  Has anyone
used this combination of hardware and software successfully?  Has anyone
used some other OCR software with this combination of hardware?

Thanks,

Jim Allison
Clark University IRC

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Date: Sun, 8 Aug 93 20:39:52 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Pete Jemian)
Subject: Hiding the Names of Apps [R]

On hiding the names of frequently-used icons that
you love to click but not read:

My solution for this is to create aliases and to
name the aliases by their creator's signature.  These
signatures are sufficiently unique (in most cases)
to avoid collisions.  To find out what is the signature
of a particular file, ResEdit will do volunteer this
information (among other programs).  The program I use
is ctc, a short drag-and-drop application that will Change
the file's Type and Creator.

Frankly, I think removing the name from an icon is bad practice
as it gives the OS fits.  Probably doesn't hurt things, though.
If you don't like the names at all, use an application
server (the kind that makes a window of just the icons and
just click them.  Of course,the server then needs to be a
startup document, extension, control panel or something.)

Pete R. Jemian
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 93 00:11:49 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: hqx compressor wanted (small & cheap)

My home mac is now a plus w/ 1 mg of RAM--don't laugh, i had been using
a 512 ;).  Anyhow I need a small, inexpensive (free?) way of binhexing
files for uploads.  The latest stuffit lite it too heavy for my avail-
able RAM :(, and I could not find anything in the cmp directory at sumex
that fit the bill.  Any suggestions??????

Thanks in advance.

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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 93 08:23:24 CST
From: [e-mail] (Chun-Ching Yang)
Subject: IIsi connected with PC with AppleTalk, how?

     I am currently using Mac IIsi and a lot of IBM PC compatible computers
in my office.
     I have been herard that I can connect these Mac and PC computers by
installing the Ethernet. If I want to do it, what's hardware and software I
need to buy on both sides of IBMac and PC?
     The other questions is : If I need to connect my Mac and PCs through
AppleTalk (that is, a Mac to a PC), how can I do it?
     Thanks in advance.


Thomas

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Date: 10 Aug 93 20:41:46 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Don't even bother)
Subject: International Keyboards

In digest <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] writes:

>If you are interested  look in the new Inside Mac -- Text there is a list of
>the Countrys and Languages Supported; Its impresive.

>Louis Mackey

Anyone know where the Text can be found. I'm at cllege and right now have very
little time to run around looking for things, but desperately want to add
keyboard layouts to my system.

Thanx!

--Michael Sheldon

[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 19:29:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>
Subject: JFK stack still available?

Folks,

    For some reason I can't get Veronica or Archie to work from my
location in a proper way (at least how I'm used to....grin).  I have a
teacher friend who wants the JFK HyperCard stack.  I dug around in sumex
and at umich and could not find it.
    If someone could take some time out and help out a bit, I'd
certainly appreciate it.  It might be a good idea to publically post the
location as I'm sure there would be sufficient interest.  This stack is
incredible and has the Zapruder film residing within, in the form of a
QuickTime movie.  I have the stack myself, but uploading it would kill my
allocated time.  If it is no longer at any sites, I will upload it.
    Many thanks!!!

--Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 08:18:52 MDT
From: [e-mail] (Sean Morgan)
Subject: LaTeX on a Mac?

How do I translate this format into something useful on a Mac?  I think
it's from the *NIX universe, therefore alien to me.  It looks like
postscript or RTF, but it ain't.

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 13:26:28 CDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: LC520 .vs. Centris 660av?

    I've been following this thread on comp.sys.mac.advocacy, so
aplogies in advance if y'all think I shouldn't post this message here :)
So here goes...
    Got an LC2 back in May, and immediately bumped it up to 10 megs RAM,
    and
picked pu a Supr v32.bis fax/modem and stylewriter2. As far as satisfaction
goes
I couldn't be happier that I sold my IBM( big grin ). It is however, time to
move on and get a new Mac( this is a curse I think ). It boils down to a
question of whether or not I get an LC520, or Centris 660av. I've got a couple
of questions and opinions about both.
    The LC520: may or may not be sold in the states( available edu in
    Canada ). Max RAM: 36 megs Standard video RAM: 768 K/16 bits. CD Rom.
    Stereo input/output.
    Centris 660av: video input/output( can't get any hard specs on it ),
    stereo input/output, CD rom( not sure of this though ). MacPlainTalk,
    Modem port emulation( not sure of this?? ).

    The price of the LC520 is 2273 including 8 megs of ram, cd rom, and a
    160 meg hard drive. We haven't got edu prices on the new Centris yet.
    I'm looking
for hard data on the new Centris, and would appreciate any info if possible.
If I get any responses by email, I'll summarise them( I just found out how to
read
my unix mail( embarassed look ).

    Thomas Davie( [e-mail] )

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 03:21:07 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Willem Nijenhuis)
Subject: Long signatures

Today I received a message from the moderators. I hereby pass it to the
Digest readers, because I did not know and I assume others don't know
either.

> Long signatures are discouraged in the Info-Mac Digest because they use up
> valuable space better used to distribute actual messages. We have mailed
your
> posting back to you because your signature does not meet our standard
> requirements, which are:

> 1. One-line (80 character) signatures may contain anything.
> 2. Two-line (160 char.) signatures are allowed if they are just-the-facts --
>    no ASCII graphics, quotations, etc.
> 3. No signatures longer than 160 characters are allowed.

> If you still wish your message to appear in the Digest, please revise it
> and resubmit. Thank you!

Willem Nijenhuis ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 22:20:04 PDT
From: [e-mail] (John Thoo)
Subject: LW8.0-incompatible progs list (Q)

I understand that floating around somewhere is a list of programs that
are incompatible with the LW8.0 driver (some 12-page report by Adobe?).
Is it available on-line?  And, if so, where?  (I tried looking in
<ftp.adobe.com>, but, not know exactly for what I was looking, quickly
got lost.)  Thanks for your help.

--John.
J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <[e-mail]>
``My _real_ computer is a Macintosh.''

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 12:02:22 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Mac - UNIX  Interfacing

I am looking for the capability to access a  remote UNIX file system via my
Macintosh  application by remote mounting the UNIX system  (similar to remote
mounting a disk in AppleShare) .    I am only  interested in reading and
writing  files between the Mac and Sun server - no desire to perform UNIX-like
operations.

Can anyone tell me if software is available to perform this function or what
other alternatives may exist.

Please respond to me individually as I am not a member of this distribution.

Thanks,

Joe

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Date: Tue, 10 AUG 93 17:47:28 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Mac App to "unzip" a file

>Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 16:17:04 GMT
>From: [e-mail] (Eric H Seale)
>Subject: Mac App to "unzip" a file

>I downloaded a couple of text articles that are, unfortunately in
>"zipped" format.  Is anyone aware of a utility that can unzip them?

>Thanks in advance,

>Eric Seale
>[e-mail]

Eric,

    The best one I've found is ZipIt 1.1.1.  It has a very "Mac-like"
interface and seems to compress better than Stuffit Lite or CompactPro.
Its also only $10.00 shareware (which I'll send in as soon as I can find my
checkbook :-)).  Its disadvantage is that it won't preserve file hierarchy.
It should be available from info-mac (at least that's where I think I got
it).

    Bill Cameron
    Wright Lab Materials Directorate
    [e-mail]


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Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1993 20:45:32 CHT
From: [e-mail] (Patricio Mason)
Subject: Mac dealers in Minneapolis/St. Paul or Chicago

Dear netters,

A friend is going to the States and he wants to pick up some stuff for his
LC and LC II.  He is going to Minneapolis/St. Paul and Chicago.  He would
appreciate leads on places to buy in those two cities.

He needs a 512 VRAM chip for his LC as well as an FPU for his LC II.
Should he get a special kind of either?  Could somebody provide a ballpark
current price for these items?  Also, I am thinking of getting a carrying
case for my new Classic Color.  Does anyone know who offers a good deal on
such a beast, either in the towns above or by mail order?  Mac magazines
are not easy to get down here.

Many thanks in advance.

Patricio Mason
International Communication Solutions Ltd.
Specialist Translation and Multilingual Productions
Avenida Suecia 84, Oficina 162, Piso 16
Providencia - Santiago, Chile
Tel.: [phone]-2854
Fax:  [phone]
e-mail: [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 08:32:58 -0400
From: "Andrew Adams" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacPPP 1.1.3 release

>put/get operations from fetch simply don't transmit
>any data.
>
>Has anyone encountered this?
>

Haven't seen this one.  I've used fetch 2.1 quite a bit for both put & get
without problems. (I'm dialing into a MichNet SCP and not a Sun....)

-Andy

>Date: Fri, 6 Aug 93 13:40:15 PDT
>From: [e-mail] (Nicolas Rouquette)
>Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: MacPPP 1.1.3 release
>Cc: [e-mail]
>Status: RO
>
>
>It works great with dp-2.3. I've been using telnet and Mac X.
>One thing that doesn't work is fetch 2.1.
>Hyperftp works fine but with fetch, I am only able
>to connect and browse directories.
>put/get operations from fetch simply don't transmit
>any data.
>
>Has anyone encountered this?
>
>I also have used dp's dial on demand facility a lot to have
>the sun callback the mac. The way I do this is to initate a ppp
>connection from the mac and, instead of login under the PPP account,
>I log in with my regular user account, start a batch job to ping repeatedly
>the mac every minute, and logout.
>
>>From the mac side, of course no ppp connection is established. I change
>server where the new server configuration has a different connection script:
>instead of dialing out a number, it simply waits for an incoming
>"PPP ready" message from the dp on the sun, to which it replies "PPP start".
> After that, both sides start the negotiation phase, et voila! Only a minute
of
>telephone toll charge.
>
>Since on the sun side there is a batch job that pings the mac frequently,
>any interruption in the phone line results in dp to dial out again to
>re-establish the link so that ping can go through. What is off is that
>the PPP control panel still keeps DTR on and reports that the link is still
up
>despite the fact that the modems have hung up!
>THus, I have to manually hard close PPP so that I can open it again
>to wait for dp to call the mac. This is a minor nuisance but an odd behavior
>that interested souls may want to check out.
>
>Finally, I am wondering how the authorization configuration is used?
>Can it be used in conjunction with dp-2.3?
>
>-- Nicolas.
>

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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 03:26:58 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Managing the Desktop Folder

Hello,

I was wondering if anybody knew of an easy way to set up a powerbook so that
the desktop folder is not accessed when the PB is in SCSI disk mode. I have a
180c and 14" RBG on my mac at home and both computers are set up with aliases
running down the left and across the bottom (but since the data and programs
on the computers aren't the same, the alias aren't the same). When I use the
SCSI disk mode to access the PB's hard disk, I get overlapping alias icons.
As you can probably imagine the resulting desktop is ugly and a bit
unmanagable.

I have tried working around the problem by renaming the desktop folder on the
PB while it is connected as a SCSI disk and then changing the name back when
I am done, but it is a bit tedious. I welcome any suggestions.
Thanks,
Tom

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 03:19:54 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Willem Nijenhuis)
Subject: Modifying Finder 7.1 to show file sizes in K (A)

In Infomac-157 James Lawry writes:

> Quite a while ago there was a posting about how to modify the Finder
> so that the information displayed in folder windows about free space
> and space used was in K rather than Mb. I duly did this to my Finder 7.0
> but now that I've upgraded to system 7.1 I find the patch doesn't work.

Following little hack works fine with my System Z-1 7.1

- Make a copy of the Finder.
- Open the copy in ResEdit.
- Go to Code #22.
- Search with HexEditor for offset 1A8.
- Change 0C86 0010 0000 6500 0082 to 0C86 0010 0000 6000 0082.
- Save the change.
- Replace the original Finder by the copy.

Willem Nijenhuis.([e-mail]).

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 10:35:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marshall McGowan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mouse Problem Update

Hello again!

Well, I've gotten lots of EMail describing various problems. The consensus
seems to be, and further playing around on my part has indicated, that
there are two versions of the ADB II mouse being manufactured. The two
types are distinguished as follows:

    Type A (Good Little Mousy)
        Ball: Grey, heavy ball, lending a macho feel to the mouse
        Feet: Dark Grey, thick (a relative term, mind you.)
        Manufacturing Country: Malaysia

    Type B (Bad Little Mousy, bad, bad!)
        Ball: Black, light spongy looking ball, easier to move
              the mouse.
        Feet: Light grey/white, thin (not relative, these are almost
              as thin as the little wells they sit in.)
        Manufacturing Country: Taiwan

I have had the opportunity to look at about six or seven mice, and all the
ones wtih good balls are from Malaysia, and all the ones with bad balls
are from Taiwan.

For solutions I have come up with several.

    1. Get a good mouse, try before you buy.
    2. Use a mouse pad which has a hard surface.
    3. Don't use a mouse pad at all.
    4. Instead of pressing the button at the top, curl your hand a
       little sideways, and press the button on a lower side corner.
    5. Get a grey ball from Apple Service, or trade with an older ADB
       Mouse. (I have not done this yet, but, for the older mice, I like
       the black balls, because they are lighter, and they make the mouse
       easier to move.)

I hope this helps clear the mouse dust.

Marshall        | Heisenberg slept here, or somewhere else nearby.
[e-mail] |  W J Williams, Atonement Days.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 08 Aug 93 16:33:17 EDT
From: Eric Weiss-Altaner <[e-mail]>
Subject: multiple keyboard layouts

On 5 August, Thomas Flesher <[e-mail]> asked for
suggestions for easily changing keyboard layouts.

This is why I bought a Mac in 1985: I needed a computer that would let
me write in 3 languages, something a DOS-PC could not do then.
My solution was provided by a wonderful utility called
MacKeymeleon II, made by
Lagiciel Avenue Inc.
2162, boul. Charest ouest
Sainte-Foy, QC
Canada  G1N 2G3
fax: [phone]
voice: 418-682-6968

The upgrade from version 1.6 to MacKeymeleon II was 70$ Canadian,
which after taxes must come to about 35 cents! OK, dry Northern
humour here. I would imagine the price should be around 50$US.

With MacKeymeleon, one can rapidly assign the different values
of a font to wheatever key your pinky desires.
With MacKeymeleon, I have been able to set up a Dvorak
layout in French-English and another in Spanish, all the
while maintaining domestic peace by letting me define a standard Sholes
layout for my significant other.

I imagine MacKeymeleon is ResEdit for KCHR "for the rest of us."
It comes with Danish, Turkish, Flemish, German, Swiss German layouts
(in Sholes form), but unfortunately no Polish. However, since you
have a   Polish font, ti'll be very fast to set it up just the way you want
it.

Eric Weiss-Altaner
Universite du Quebec a Montreal
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 23:31:20 +0100 (GDT)
From: "GESBI  D(BM)2" <[e-mail]>
Subject: OCR shareware ?

Hi netters !
I'm presently looking for an optical character recognition software
capable of reading PICT and/or PAINT and/or TIFF files, let's say
something like FaxCilitate BUT in the shareware domain...
Has anybody heard of such stuff ??
E-mail highly welcomed !!
Yours sincerely,

            Francois Ichas

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 03:31:36 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Willem Nijenhuis)
Subject: OMEGA SANE patch

In Infomac-158 Jonathan Jacobs writes:

> Apple released a little-publicized version of their SANE
> routines, known as "Omega SANE."  These routines are faster
> and more precise than the standard SANE.
> Apple included these in System 7.0.1 but then removed them
> From System 7.1 for no adequately stated reason.

In the UseNet Newsgroup comp.sys.mac.system Greg Marriott stated the
following reasons for removing Omega Sane from System 7.1:

0) OmegeSANE achieves some of its speed-ups by a technique known as
back-patching.  Calls to SANE are patched in the running application (yes,
the app's code is _changed in memory_) to jump directly to the math
routines instead of going through the dispatcher.

1) OmegaSANE must be locked in memory (due to the back-patching).  This can
severely fragment the system heap causing lots of space to be unrecoverable
for use by applications.

2) If the modified code segment is, for any reason, written back out to
disk the the app will be permanently broken (unless, of course, the SANE
package is loaded into the _exact same place_ in the system heap... yea,
right).

3) Unfortunately, some older compilers produced code that causes the
pattern matcher in OmegaSANE to misfire, later causing the app to call the
_wrong_ math routine.

Many engineers (me included) campaigned against ever using the
back-patching technique because of the above dangers.  Besides, the big
speed wins were in the re-written routines, not bypassing the dispatcher.
But it shipped in 7.0.1 anyway.  We course-corrected in 7.1.

The OmegaSANE package is in the Quadra ROMs, so reasons 1 and 2 don't apply
(unless you move a "damaged" application to a non-Quadra machine after it
has been modified by SANE).  Reason 3 still applies, but it turns out most
applications that will even _run_ on a Quadra were developed with later,
better, development systems that didn't produce the confusing pattern of
instructions.

Bottom line:  Using OmegaSANE on non-Quadra machines is risky and ill
advised.

Minor peeve:  We didn't remove OmegaSANE just to piss you off.  (sorry.
it's one of my sore spots...)

[e-mail] (Greg Marriott)
 ------------------------------------------

I hope this information will help to decide wether to use the patch or not.

Willem Nijenhuis. ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 23:17:03 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Dieder B.)
Subject: Pathways Into Darkness easter-egg?

If you haven't tried P.into Darkness, try it! Quite the neat game! In doing
the standard 'hit every key on the keyboard and see what neat things
happen', try typing h,j,k and hear what the new soundmanager 3.0 can do, as
well as the most neat sound-effects in P.i.D. that are because of
SoundManager 3.0! I am impressed! The effect w/ headphones is quite
amazing...

D.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 17:59:11 +0100
From: "J. Rossi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Pictures needed

Hello

I need two pictures:

- a view of London (whatever)
- a view of the cosmos (whatever you understand by cosmos)

It would be really great and much appreciated if somebody could send me
something answering the above. Any format will do, as well as any size as
my mailer can handle really big files.

For those of you who post something, please forgive me for not answering
quickly as I'll be away for two weeks without my modem.

Francois Rossi   [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 09 Aug 93 12:42:41 CET
From: Wojciech Duda <[e-mail]>
Subject: PowerPC

Hello,

since my last message on the PowerPc was messed up a little (I don't know
why),
 my last question was not there (or did I forget to type it) |

Could anybody tell me, whether there is an Email adress for Motorola, where I
c
ould order the Information package that was annouce in a Wall street Journal
ad
 in late June (there was a 1-800 number given, which I can't dial from
 Europe).
Thanks for your help ||||||||

Wojciech Duda, Student at the University of Business Administration and
Economi
cs, Vienna, Austria, Europe
Software Librarian at AMDA-Link BBS Vienna ([phone] "Adalbert
Duda,ALWi
en")
Internet: 8650763 at AWIWUW11.BITNET

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 20:27:33 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Tony Huang)
Subject: Power PC questions (A)

>Date: Fri, 06 Aug 93 13:00:51 CET
>From: "Wojciech (Adalbert) Duda"
><[e-mail]>
>Subject: Power PC questions
>
>Hello,
>
>having read all that interesting information in the digest and elsewhere on
>the internet I still have a few questions (I think everybody has and will
have
> till the introduction of the PowerPCs in 1994):
>
>How will the emulation mode be working ? Will there be something like SoftPC,
>that is a Mac within a Mac (since the PowerPC will be a mac). In other words,
>to run pre-PowerPC programs will one have to start the emulator first and
will
>it use it's own hard disk space like the MS-Dos emulator.
>Or will the PowerPC Mac automatically start emulating a 68020 or 68040
>(whatever it will be) when the user double-clicks on a pre-PowerPC program or
>>file ?

Yes. The emulation is automatic and is on by default. You can double-click
on an application or a document as you do now. A program written in native
PowerPC instructions would have to include a special resource (to
differenciate it from those in 680x0 code). In fact, you can even mix the
two types of instructions in the same program and switching would be
automatic (you have to follow certain rules, of course).

>And will the hard disk space and all documents be accessible to both systems,
>just like keeping system 6 and 7 on one hard disk.

The reason SoftPC has to create a seperate "disk" is that DOS uses a
different file system. Assuming you're running System 7.x (whatever that x
may be) on the PowerPC, you will be using the same Mac file system
regardless of the type of file (PowerPC-native program or not). On the
other hand, if you want to use multiple operating systems on the PowerPC
Mac, you'd have to "create" multiple "disks". (I doubt Apple would
initially offer anything other than MacOS on the low-end PowerPC Macs).

Tony Huang
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 8:13:12 EDT
From: Tom Coradeschi <[e-mail]>
Subject: Privacy on the Net (C)

Hey Moderators! May I suggest that this thread be moderated? Like out of
existence? There are any number of mailing lists and newsgroups devoted to
discussions of this nature. It's time to get Info-Mac back on the info-MAC
path.

Just my $0.02...

        tom coradeschi    <+>    [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 10:47:03 MET DST
From: Christian F. Buser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Problem emptying trasch (C)

"Doc Kinne: User Services Associate" <[e-mail]>
asked in a recent i-m digest about the phenomenon why his Mac did say
that the trash is empty although he sees two items in the trashcan and
the trashcan is fat.

I suppose that his harddisk is formatted with Silverlining, version number
SMALLER THAN 5.42. I had this problem before, when I switched to System 7
without using SL 5.42 - there must be a "report" somewhere in the info-mac
archives wich I submitted, containing also statements from LaCie and
others.

Hope this helps, Christian.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 10:47:44 CDT
From: Akira <[e-mail]>
Subject: Prograph

Is there anyone out there that has ever used Prograph?  If so, how is?  Is
it worth the time and effort?  How is the development time?  What is the
learning curve?  Just general questions?

Akira

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Aug 93 19:17:39 CEST
From: Marco Ridoni <[e-mail]>
Subject: Serbo-Croat Font

Hi !
I need a font for the serbo-croat language. NOT the cyrillic one, but that
with diacritic signs and latin alphabet, instead (for those who know what
I'm talking about). Is anyone out there who knows where I can find one ? I
tried on apple.ftp.com, but I couldn't locate on which national verson of
the System this char set is.

Thanks, Bye
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 16:50:58 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Karl Pottie)
Subject: Symantec C++

I've heard Symantec C++ is quite buggy. Is this true ? Could anybody give a
summary of these bugs ? Is the C++ compiler usable or should I stay away
>From it till the next release ?

Karl


--
Karl Pottie                           e-mail: [e-mail]
Mac Support                  University Hospitals of Leuven, Belgium


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Date: Sun Aug  8 23:35:14 EDT 1993
From: [e-mail] (Brian R. Gaeke)
Subject: Temporary Items Folder -- Don't Trash!!

(someone) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
I'm having this annoying little problem with my hard drive. A couple
days ago, I found a folder in my hard drive, named, "Temporary
Items". I decided to trash it, and moved it to the trashcan.
<<<<<<<<<<

You should not trash the Temporary Items folder. It is used by programs
to dump their scratch files and stuff. These usually get deleted, but
if a program crashes or otherwise terminates abnormally, the temp files
may stay there. Just restart, and the Finder will dump the Temporary
Items folder for you, and anything in it goes into a "Rescued Items
>From (hard disk name)" folder in your Trash can.

In any case, don't try to delete the Temporary Items folder while you
are running other programs. it would be like pulling the rug out from
under them, and they are liable to crash when they figure out that
their scratch-files are gone.

This advice was brought to you by Inside Mac VI-9-39 to 9-43, and
Brian Gaeke.

--
Brian Gaeke, The Dimensional Gate Company Internet E-Mail: [e-mail]
Finger my account for my PGP public key.

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 06:09:18 +0000
From: [e-mail] (Martin Stoermer)
Subject: User Groups in Australia.......

Wojciech (Adalbert) Duda asks a few things about Mac's in Australia.

Sorry I can't answer about the User Groups side of things as I am a slack
dog who never joined one, but here goes on the others:

unfortunately you will miss the Australian Macworld Expo as it is on
November 4-6.  There are general computer shows around that time as well
but I can't seem to find the relevent fliers at present.

Australia has several good Mac Magazines though,
Australian Macworld,  a mostly independant (from it's US big Brother) monthly
Australian MacUser, six times a year, borrows a lot from it's US sibling
MacWeek, aimed at business users primarily.

you can get the US mags as well for a price which I whinged about a few
weeks back, but they are about 3 months behind the US (they come by canoe).
 Apart from that, have a good time down here, October is a great time for
the weather, as it is getting warmer and is mostly dry.

martin

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 10:44:14 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Bruce E. Wilson, Eastman Chemical Company,
([e-mail]))
Subject: What ways are there to get Internet email access?

Netfolks -- I am involved in organizing what we hope will be an Internet
email conference (on chemometrics) for Fall of '94.  I would like any
information you might have on how people who currently do not have
Internet email access might get such access.  In particular, any info
you have on actual experience with such would be most appreicated, as
would leads in the literature, Usenet news groups to peruse, ....

A significant chunk of the participants will have Macs, so Mac specific
suggestions are welcome.

Please respond DIRECTLY to me ([e-mail]).  I will be happy to
send a summary to anyone who is interested after I have assembled
the data.  Much appreciated.

        Bruce Wilson ([e-mail])
        Senior Research Chemist, Eastman Chemical Company

------------------------------

Date: Sun Aug  8 23:35:16 EDT 1993
From: [e-mail] (Brian R. Gaeke)
Subject: WindowsNT (C)

[e-mail] writes:
>>>>>>>>>>
Personally, I can't see why MS didn't offer Apple truck-loads of money to
license the Mac GUI, why re-invent the wheel? Does Windows (NT or 3.x) do
anything better than the Mac does (disregarding the hardware differences)?
<<<<<<<<<<

I think that this would be a great idea for Apple, too... except for the
fact that Apple would rather sue than share, when it comes to the GUI
stuff. I don't know if this is fair(tm) because Xerox PARC developed a
lot of this stuff, but that facet of it is out the window here.

Also, Apple would make a lot of money off of it, but in the end, Apple
would probably lose out to the clone$ and their extremely cheap machine$.

Brian
--
Brian Gaeke, The Dimensional Gate Company Internet E-Mail: [e-mail]
Finger my account for my PGP public key.

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